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The Dragon Has Three Heads

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marotagemcabulosa asked: Would you consider the book scene a case of rape also? I mean, the show made it way worse, but in the original, Jaime stills kisses Cersei as she urges him to stop

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fatpinkcast:

We posted the transcribed scene here

“Hurry,” she was whispering now, “quickly, quickly, now, do it now, do me now. Jaime Jaime Jaime.” Her hands helped guide him. “Yes,” Cersei said as he thrust, “my brother, sweet brother, yes, like that, yes, I have you, you’re home now, you’re home now, you’re home.” She kissed his ear and stroked his short bristly hair. Jaime lost himself in her flesh. He could feel Cersei’s heart beating in time with his own, and the wetness of blood and seed where they were joined.

Cersei initiates the kissing. She says “no, not here, the septons” when Jaime starts kissing her neck, then mentions the wrath of the gods and her father as he’s making space for them to have sex, which is important to note. She protests at first because of the location and because she doesn’t want them to be caught, not because she doesn’t want to have sex with him. If the scene was written as Cersei struggled to push him away, wanted to make him stop kissing her, but couldn’t etc. and hadn’t included her literally telling Jaime to have sex with her, it would have been rape, but that isn’t what happened.
Cersei forgets the septons and the location, tells him to hurry, tells him to have sex with her, and even grabs him and guides him to her. She also says "yes" three times and other terms of endearment while they’re having sex. She gives him explicit consent, and it is then and only then that the sex happens. If she’d said no, Jaime—who has clear moral issues with rape due to past trauma—would not have forced Cersei. His thoughts during that scene are also about how much he wants to protect her, not about how hateful she is.
In the show, she pulls completely away from the kiss/stops the kiss, which is when Jaime’s personality completely switches and he calls her hateful, then forces her to kiss him. The gods and the septons and our father be damned turns into “how could the gods make me love such a hateful woman.” She says “no” “stop it” continuously while struggling with him to stop. I think there’s a clear difference here.
-J

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